By Katherine Tinsley
3:19pm PDT, May 1, 2025
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Donald Trump exploded during his ABC News interview with
Terry Moran after the journalist pointed out an inaccuracy in the president's claims about
Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
The Trump administration branded Garcia's deportation to El Salvador an "administrative error," but they have yet to follow through with a Supreme Court order to facilitate his return.
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Donald Trump previously used a picture of Kilmar Abrego Garcia's knuckles to defend his refusal to bring home the wrongfully deported Maryland resident. The picture shows what appears to be MS-13 tattoos on his hands — which would prove he's affiliated with the violent gang — but there have been questions about the validity of the image, which Terry Moran pointed out in his Trump interview.
"That was Photoshop? Terry, you can't do that. … They're giving you the big break of a lifetime," Trump said when Moran informed him the photo he referenced had been digitally altered.
"You know, you're doing the interview. I picked you because — frankly, I never heard of you, but that's okay," Trump said. "But I picked you, Terry, but you're not being very nice. He had MS-13 tattooed."
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Terry Moran attempted to move on to the next talking point, but Donald Trump was focused on discussing Kilmar Abrego Garcia's alleged tattoos.
"All right. All right. We'll agree to disagree. I want to move on to something else," Moran said.
"Terry," Trump pushed back. "Do you want me to show the picture?"
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Terry Moran claimed the picture Donald Trump referenced wasn't authentic, but the president's mind couldn't be changed.
"Oh, and you think it was Photoshop. Well," Trump argued.
"Here we go. Here we go," Terry Moran replied.
"Don't Photoshop it. Go look," the president fired back. "At his hand. He had MS-13 on his hand. He had MS-13. At his hand. He had MS-13."
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Terry Moran later noted that the artwork on Kilmar Abrego Garcia's body could mean various things.
"Fair enough, he did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way. I'm not an expert on them," Terry Moran told Donald Trump.
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While Terry Moran attempted to continue the interview, Donald Trump kept pushing his point.
"Terry, no, no. No, no. He had MS as clear as you can be. Not 'interpreted.' This is why people no longer believe the news, because it's fake news," Trump declared.
Later on in the interview, Moran said the image was "contested."
