By Katherine Tinsley
3:19pm PDT, Aug 22, 2025
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Donald Trump is aiming to secure a spot in heaven through his second term in office. The president shared his rambling thoughts on religion during an interview with
Todd Starnes.
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Donald Trump didn't hesitate to reflect on the afterlife in the interview. He said of standing up for people of faith, "I just do it because I know it's true. If you look around, I mean, people of faith, there's a feeling they want to be good. You know, they get punished if they're not good, right? If you don't think about that, if you're not a believer, and you believe you go nowhere, what's the reason to be good, really?"
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"There has to be some kind of a report card up there someplace, you know, like, let's go to heaven, let's get into heaven. It's sort of a beautiful thing," Donald Trump continued. "Look, religion was the backbone of our country, it's much less so now, but it's getting much stronger under me."
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Donald Trump went on to claim that the state of organized religion in the United State was "terrible under [Joe] Biden." Said the former reality star, "I was so amazed. You know, I won the evangelicals by like 88%, but I was trying to figure out who are the other 12%. How could they vote for [Kamala Harris]? You know, I mean, she was so pathetic and Biden, you know, it's a combination, what was worse than the other? Why do they do that? It's like, you can't imagine them wanting to do that."
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Donald Trump went on to link Joe Biden's policies during the pandemic to the state of organized religion in the United States. "You saw what they did to you. They were closing churches — even if the people went outside and they were 10 feet apart," he complained. "They were going in and raiding them, and, you know, treating them like prisoners, like, you know, like horrible people and they're great people."
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Donald Trump concluded by praising Christians and their presence in the U.S. "They were the backbone of this country — and they still are. But they were dwindling. But I'm telling you, they're coming back — religion's coming back. And religion brings our country together — all religions. A lot of religions. I mean, some are — some I could question, I guess, to be honest with you — a little rough philosophy there. But religion brings our country together, and it's a great thing. It's a great thing. And we have to bring it back stronger — and it has made tremendous inroads."
