By Katherine Tinsley
3:42am PDT, Mar 13, 2025
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Former CNN staffers
Tucker Carlson and
Chris Cuomo discussed the ongoing shifts in the media industry — and the "weird hypocrisy" of the business — during an episode of
The Tucker Carlson Show.
Keep reading to see how the two men bonded in spite of their many differences…
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Tucker Carlson worked at CNN from 2000 to 2005, and Chris Cuomo was at the network from 2013 until his indefinite suspension in 2021.
"It gives me no particular joy to say this, but you were right about it," Cuomo told Carlson of the harsh realities of the media business. "Don't get used to it. It's the last time you'll hear it in this conversation."
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Chris Cuomo revealed Tucker Carlson reached out to share some words of wisdom after CNN ousted him.
"Give it time, embrace doing what you're doing, and don't look for the acceptance of where you were," Cuomo recalled. "That was really good advice."
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Tucker Carlson called CNN's response to Chris Cuomo assisting his brother, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, with the politician's response to harassment allegations a "weird hypocrisy."
"So from a year ago until today, I now know that," the Good Morning America alum stated. "And there is something comforting about that. It's an ugly business, it's an ugly time."
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Tucker Carlson is best known for his time on Fox News, but he has been working an independent commentator since 2023 when he parted ways with the conservative network.
"It's been almost two years for me since I haven't worked in the media," Carlson shared. "And it's weird when you do work there for your whole life, you just accept that everyone lies all the time and it's totally treacherous and people who claim to be your friends actually hate you and every dispute is settled with a lawyer."
"You just accept that's the way things work, but that's not how things work outside the media," he added.
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Chris Cuomo and Tucker Carlson hinted at the their former employers negatively impacting their reputations.
"It's okay for me to destroy you by a standard that I would never want imposed on me. If I were to cover you in any situation and put a positive spin on it, that's a puff piece," Cuomo said.
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Chris Cuomo went on to explain that if he covered Tucker Carlson in a positive light, critics would complain he'd "been red-pilled" and "bought up by that preppy, smiley chucklehead."
"And if I then say, 'Well, I sat down with Tucker [Carlson], and as I knew it, he's the devil's spawn,' [they'd say] 'Ooh, that was a hard-hitting piece. He really came at him,'" Cuomo said.
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Chris Cuomo acknowledged that the media landscape has shifted in recent years.
"The commodity is negativity," he said. "If you want to be a hard journalist, you better say something negative about somebody. It's a proxy for insight."
